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Episode 215: “If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they’ll kill you.”

By Jasmin and Mariann — February 22, 2014

Screen-Shot-2014-02-10-at-10.54.49-AM-460x382Welcome to the 215th episode of Our Hen House, featuring Lori Marino [transcript] and Sangamithra Iyer

In today’s episode, we squawk about which animal rights messages are seeping their way into our morning cartoons, and whether anthropomorphizing is a good or a bad thing when it comes to cartoon characters. We will tell you which animal advocate we just saw starring on Broadway, and we’ll make a pretty groovy announcement about a major conference we will be attending. We’ll talk about one writer’s article on why she wears fur and leather, and while we’re on the subject of writers, we will talk about one of Jasmin’s favorite ones, who disappointed us to epic proportions. And, of course, we’ll bring you “Rising Anxieties,” too.

Joining us today is Lori Marino, a neuroscientist and expert in animal behavior and intelligence, whom you might know from her role in the documentary Blackfish. Lori will get us up to speed on the latest on marine mammal evolution, biology and cognition, as well as let us in on the important work she’s doing for farmed animals.

Then, we’ll be joined by Sangamithra Iyer, author of the new ebook, “The Lines We Draw,” a publication of – wait for it… — Hen Press, Our Hen House’s new ebook publishing arm! We’ll tell you all about Hen Press, and Sangu will let you in on “The Lines We Draw,” a story about boundaries — physical, biological, and ethical — which evolved out of a conversation with the late Dr. Alfred Prince, a hepatitis researcher, about the use of chimpanzees in medical research, and expanded into a larger discussion about ethics.

All that, vegan banter, and of course, current events from the world of animal rights. 

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“If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they’ll kill you.” – Oscar Wilde wrote this in the short story, “The Nightingale and the Rose.”


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  1. Helen
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    February 23, 2014 at 11:46 pm

    Congratulations on Hen Press! I'm so excited to read "The Lines We Draw"!

  2. Monique
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    February 27, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    Huge congrats on Hen Press!!! I was listening to this episode today and something struck me when you were talking about how we cannot communicate with animals because of our use of words. This is actually not true. We are able to communicate with animals, or we used to be able to a lot more frequently. Native tribes around the world use this ability to track animals. Nowadays, you also have gifted animal communicators like Anna Breytenbach and Danielle MacKinnon who do amazing work. If you have never checked out Anna´s work, please watch this clip. It will move you: http://bit.ly/1jPju6J

  3. March 2, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    WOW - the interview with Marino was AWESOME! I am so excited to hear about the Kimmela Center and how similar it sounds to what we're trying to do for snakes. It was also great to hear the discussion about animal research and what we can learn with non-invasive methods. I left grad school with a MS instead of a PhD because my committee insisted that a manipulative experiment was required for a PhD. I can only imagine how what an amazing doctorate project I would have had working with someone like Marino. I'm happy to know there are academics like her out there, giving students a chance to do great things without harm, because its absolutely possible.

    • March 13, 2014 at 3:29 pm

      Hi Rattlesnake Mel - Thank you for your comments. I'm so sorry you were forced to make a choice between your education and whether to do something against your principles. No committee has the right to put you in that position. I hope you've fought it or moved on to what you are passionate about. Take care.

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