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Episode 167: “There is no such thing as ‘humane’ meat. There’s marginally less cruel meat. Let’s call it what it is.”

By Jasmin and Mariann — March 23, 2013

Jack Norris, RD

Welcome to the 167th episode of Our Hen House, featuring Jack Norris, RD, with a special appearance by Katrina Donovan Fleming.

On today’s episode, we discuss the idea that silence equals death – a slogan made popular by the AIDS activism movement, but we’re going to discuss it today as it pertains to animal activism. We’ll also chat about what happens when animal advocates and vegans are misunderstood, and we’ll ruminate on how to articulate – in a rational way – what we humans are taking from an animal when we take away their life, as opposed to what we take from them when we make them suffer.

Joining us today is registered dietician Jack Norris, who is also the co-author (with Virgina Messina) of Vegan For Life: Everything You Need to Know to Be Healthy and Fit on a Plant-Based Diet. In light of all of the talk lately about “lapsed vegans,” Jack is going to get down and dirty with us regarding the subject of “failure to thrive.” He’ll talk, in-depth, about the ins and outs of veganism, and what specifically vegans should be mindful of when it comes to living with optimal health.

For our review, we welcome special guest Katrina Donovan Fleming, who will give us her take on the 1995 movie Powder, from a unique animal rights perspective.

All that, vegan banter, and of course, current events from the world of animal rights.

Two things of note:

For a list of the news items we discuss in today episode, and then some, take a look at the breaking news ticker at the top of, and also check out our list of archived news items.

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“There is no such thing as ‘humane’ meat. There’s marginally less cruel meat. Let’s call it what it is.” -Ingrid Newkirk

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