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Episode 444: Liz Dee and Clare Mann

By Jasmin and Mariann — July 14, 2018

Mariann talks to Liz Dee about her incredible vegan origin story, the formation and mission of Vegan Lady Boss, the importance of fostering communities of professionals, and her work with Baleine & Bjorn Capital. Liz Dee is Co-President of Smarties Candy Company, makers of iconic Smarties candy rolls. She is CEO of Baleine & Bjorn Capital, a venture capital fund that invests in businesses creating solutions to outdated animal products, and founder of Vegan Ladyboss, a global community of organized, connected and empowered vegan women. Liz lives in NYC with her husband, Nick Garin, and their rescue dog, Sandy.

Then, Jasmin brings us her conversation with Clare Mann about her new book, Vystopia, the role of empathy in spreading the message of veganism, and how important it is to tell your own story. Clare Mann is the author and co-author of numerous books, including Communicate: HOW to say WHAT needs to be said, WHEN it needs to be said in the WAY it needs to be said, Awakening The Workplace, The Myths of Life and The Choices We Have, Would I Follow Me and Strategic Human Resource Development. Clare has a BSc in Psychology, MSc in Occupational Psychology, MA in Existential Psychotherapy and Counselling and Post Graduate Diploma in Counselling. She is a registered psychologist in Australia, UK and New Zealand.

Also, Jasmin and Mariann talk about how to create hope in these times of despair, and Jasmin’s recent conversation with Corey Booker. We’ve also got News and Rising Anxieties.

As always, the award-winning weekly Our Hen House podcast is hosted by Mariann Sullivan and Jasmin Singer.


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