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Episode 461: Katie Gillespie, Steve Spiro, Donna Dennison and Natalie Ford

By Jasmin and Mariann — November 10, 2018

This week, Jasmin attends an incredible art gallery benefit for START Rescue and talks to president and co-founder Steve Spiro about the mission and work of START, the challenges he faces, and what gives him hope. She also gets a fresh dose of inspiration when she chats with participating photographers Donna Dennison and Natalie Ford about how they hope to impact the world of advocacy with their artwork.

Then, Mariann interviews Katie Gillespie about her new book, The Cow with Ear Tag #1389, the challenges of getting access to animal agriculture sites for the purposes of academic research, and the everyday violence of the dairy industry. Kathryn (Katie) Gillespie is a writer, feminist geographer, and critical animal studies scholar. Her work focuses on understanding and transforming the violent relationships between humans and other species. Her first book, The Cow with Ear Tag #1389, focuses on the lives of cows in the dairy industry in the Pacific Northwestern United States. She has coedited two books: Economies of Death and Critical Animal Geographies. When she’s not writing, Katie volunteers with Freedom Education Project Puget Sound, Pigs Peace Sanctuary, and Food Empowerment Project.

As always, the award-winning weekly Our Hen House podcast is hosted by Mariann Sullivan and Jasmin Singer.


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