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In this bonus conversation, Jasmin and Mariann sit down with Dr. Liz Tyson, Director of Animal Welfare and Advocacy at Born Free USA, to explore how zoo activism fits into the broader animal rights movement — examining the “quiet suffering” of captive animals, the disconnect between caring about zoo animals and farmed animals, and whether institutions like zoos would even be invented if they didn’t already exist.
Thank you so much to our flock for your continued support — we couldn’t do this without you, and we’re so grateful you’re here.




