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In this bonus episode, Jasmin and Mariann continue their conversation with filmmaker Joanna Zelman and her father, Dr. Jared Zelman, diving deeper into the making of Cow Trip. They explore how Joanna’s lifelong love of animals took root in childhood, what it means to be an “audience surrogate” in storytelling, and how showing a human’s reaction to hard truths can open hearts without shutting people down. Jared reflects candidly on how the experience—and his daughter’s example—changed his own relationship with food and animals.
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